Are subMedia and Pepperspray Productions Real Journalists?

Posted on July 27th, 2010 by admin in journalists | 25 Comments »

http://submedia.tv
The Real News Network, with thanks to TheUptake.org will live stream a
panel discussion tonight from St. Paul Minnesota. During the Republican
National Convention this month, over 800 people were arrested by St Paul
police for participating in protests. Over two dozen media were also
arrested for being caught up with the protests while filming or
recording the events.

Tonight from 8pm EST (North America) there will be a panel discussion
from St. Paul with:

Mara Gottfried, Pioneer Press

Jonathan Malat, KARE-11

Asst. St. Paul Police Chief Matt Bostrum

St. Paul Dep. Mayor Anne Mullholland

The panel will be moderated by Al Tompkins from the Poynter Institute.

Duration : 0:10:15


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25 Responses

  1. britandveg Says:

    Is Fox News …
    Is Fox News LOLOLOLOLOL?

  2. sadisticwoman Says:

    It’s better …
    It’s better journalism than what’s on TV. You may swear and bitch, Stimulator, but you TELL EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING. When’s the last time you saw Faux news or NBC do that?

    Yeah. It’s been awhile.

  3. NatureLegalized Says:

    be the media
    be the media

  4. NatureLegalized Says:

    Sure it’s …
    Sure it’s Journalism! & not only is this Journalism, to my point of view it’s Top Journalism!!!

  5. cbrowncolors Says:

    That last guy made …
    That last guy made some great comments. This was really interesting. Is there more? Who was holding this discussion and will it lead somewhere?

  6. jbrownil Says:

    There is no …
    There is no question that both ARE journalists. It doesn’t matter if they come from the perspective of people’s movements or the power system; they both report. Now, are they objective? That’s a different question, and much more complicated. It’s a simple matter of definition (the meaning of certain mental contruct). Independent media is what I read/watch for the real news.

  7. glasz77 Says:

    Of course Submedia- …
    Of course Submedia- indie media is the only media you can count on. I question “corporate media’s” validity. This guy wants to make an argument he should look into Faux he should look into Anderson Cooper-

    We did “Google Darfur” 2 years ago and the big media is barely catching on to talking about some of the news we broke!

    Big media is nothing but a tool for the agenda of their corporate masters and global elitists.

  8. AMason8634 Says:

    Interesting.
    Interesting.

  9. MellowmMood Says:

    The woman the …
    The woman the stimulator was talking about getting arrested at the first of the video is Amy Goodman. She is a journalist and host of Democracy Now. She WAS ARRESTED and HAD a press pass. You can see the video here on you tube. This is the issue, like the gentleman said. A select few journalists were let in THAT would express the current administrations views and be biased. We need to see the alternate side that ONLY independant media shows. That is the whole point. Everyone Should Have Access

  10. rvbarnesboy Says:

    I don’t know who …
    I don’t know who these folks are, but I LOVE the stimulator. most people I know haven’t got a CLUE about the issues facing our species. maybe I should watch more CNN. all we get is propaganda anymore and the internet is the last bastion of free speech. people wake up.

  11. uberjim83 Says:

    No, they’re not …
    No, they’re not real journalists. They’re just figments of my imagination! With time and therapy, hopefully I’ll stop seeing them. It’s just a symptom of “governmental paranoia,” a debilitating mental condition that causes you to believe that those who spend their entire lives striving for increasing amounts of power are dishonest.

  12. ethogenic Says:

    i second that.

    its …
    i second that.

    its due time the media presented an educational and dissenting if not just plain factually informative POV, but FIRST we cant have secret sessions of congress and blackops and IRAN-CONTRA crew continuing to run our international policy. lets have the republic that the constitution dictates not the dictatorial executive orders like PDD51 and things like gardenplot, rex-84 and norhtwoods and leave the rights to the states and the people and stop letting the 1% govern the 99%!

  13. damianmann Says:

    Viva La Revolution
    Viva La Revolution

  14. rentedhalo Says:

    does this seem like …
    does this seem like a bs semantics discussion? of course they are journalists. anyone who points a camera at what’s going on and reports on it is a journalist. recognizing only corporate journalists as true representations limits the point of view of the news itself.

  15. AylenMayer Says:

    lordblazer, way to …
    lordblazer, way to separate the reality here!
    We ARE a young society and this a progressive growing pain. People are waking up from their fog and witnessing a destruction of America’s basic rights. This type of debate is popping up everywhere because there is NO credible argument to allow certain groups of journalists to cover news and not another.
    WE ALL are empowered with the right to communicate what we see happening before us.
    Grab a camera and upload the TRUTH!

  16. p34koiler Says:

    yes ps an sm are …
    yes ps an sm are journalist’s.

  17. d3adp001 Says:

    Is PS and SM real …
    Is PS and SM real journalists? Well they don’t have all of the corp. equipment and million dollar lawyers, so, no of course they aren’t. Simple version is they aren’t approved to say and report things the way the people in power want it reported, and since they disagree they have no respect. I do like the point that one human being has no more rights than another human being, reporter, medic, civilian, etc. Somehow we are subhuman be being just common citizens.

  18. lordblazer Says:

    people are waking …
    people are waking up and maturing. I like it. This is a sign of a culture that is about to enter young adulthood out of adolescence. Every other older nation has gone through this.

  19. maxx1000 Says:

    .

    When the MSM …
    .

    When the MSM fails to reports facts in favor of telling tabloid fiction, they give up the right to retain the title of “JOURNALIST”.

    .

  20. TexanCyclist Says:

    Talking heads …
    Talking heads scared about loosing the privilege that they gain by licking authority’s boot. While we want reality & all questions answered, they like being parrots. It pays well, easy hours, & no thinking necessary.

  21. tonedial Says:

    to answer my own …
    to answer my own question, go to theuptake org for the full discussion.

  22. BicycleGladiator Says:

    the audience made 2 …
    the audience made 2 good points but the moderator ACTED like he didn’t understand in an attempt to confuse the panel by changing the point when he(moderator) restated it. the moderator, simply attempts to put words in the mouths of the 2 audience members…

    this method is used in most arguments.

    example:
    joe blow says to mike smith “i eat pieces of like you for breakfast!”

    mike smith responds, “eww, you eat peices of for breakfast?”

    do you get the idea?

  23. X340N3 Says:

    Which is exactly …
    Which is exactly the way it is supposed to be. The first amendment was wasn’t written for a special class of people it was written for us all. Now we have finally reached a point where we can all use it. old media

  24. myohomojo Says:

    The moderator was a …
    The moderator was a weasel! Awesome job stimulator! Getting a plug from the establishment. Remember: The start out saying you are a threat to honest journalism. They will end up trying to franchise your ass.

  25. ready2ruckk Says:

    Ed Felien is right …
    Ed Felien is right on the money.

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